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Free car parking for 500 Carlisle council workers

More than 500 permits have been given to city council workers in Carlisle so they can park for free.

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People need to get their facts straight. Parking provision by any employer is a non-taxable benefit. HMRC guidance 480 section 237,261 qnd 267 apply. There wouldn't £300,000 extrq income to the council as only few would pay, then there would just be another empty car park.

Posted by peter on 1 February 2013 at 08:38

Don't know how your relative manages that City Council slagged off again- the rest of us pay over £9 and have done for some time!!

Posted by Sal on 31 January 2013 at 19:50

@ Anon on 30 January -

There is a very clear difference between car parks on private land, owned by individuals or companies and that of land and land operated to raise funds for the general well being of the council controlled area.

There is no public money being used to support car parking in Pirelli. However public money is used to provide a parking service, for which users of the facility must have a permit. These permits cost money, and where they are provided to staff at no charge this is a Benefit in Kind. In other words, if that employee wasn't parking there, it would be available for a paying member of the public to use, and thus putting funds into the council coffers.

Should the council have a private car park, then that is very different, they don't so it is a benefit.

I have no issue with staff having these benefits, but lets be clear that it is a benefit, not a right.

Furthermore, there is never a guarantee of parking revenue - Statistics can be made to reflect the view of anyone, if they are presented accordingly. The fact remains though, if a council employee is parked in a space, it is not available for revenue, irrespective of probability or surveys.

Posted by PaulM on 31 January 2013 at 10:25

To all the "negative" comments. I understand you are jealous of these council workers. I understand you havent had to have your wages cut(not frozen, actually cut), as these workers have. Im sure you havent had to reapply for your current job, then get made redundant if you didnt get the afore mentioned job. I dont work for the council but a friend does. She lives ruraly and there is no public transport, its an eight mile walk through country lanes(flooded, full of mud, farm debris etc). So she drives and yes gets a parking pass. Do i care, no not really. I regularly go into Carlisle on work duties. I dont ever have an issue getting parked. I have to pay for my parking and i dont complain. Good luck to them. They get something we dont. I get things they dont so do i expect to be harranged in the papers next week? It actually peeves me to see that society is now more bothered with what "others" are getting then what they themselves should be doing.

Posted by mutt1ey on 31 January 2013 at 08:47

@Dave and others

If you read the article it clearly states “Research has shown that there would be no guarantee of additional parking revenue from staff or other members of the public using car parks currently designated for permit holders”

Where do you think this £300,000 is going to come from ? Because the staff certainly won’t be paying £50 a month to come to work, and the public won’t use it as they don’t use the car parks already available.

As for the benefit in kind staff at Pirelli, Eddie stobbart, News and Star etc etc etc get taxed for parking their car in a staff car park as a benefit in kind?

This information is 40 years old as previously pointed out.


Posted by anon on 30 January 2013 at 13:21

If you have to travel for work (i.e. between sites) you should have a reasonable expectation that your work AWAY form your normal place of work is paid for.

But workign in the city centre there is no reason that the Council should be paying for employees parking. You choose to work there and unless you are forced to take a mode of transport YOU should pay for it.

If you work in the building next door you have the same requiremnt to get to work - but the Council expect YOU to pay for it.

Posted by Bob A Job on 30 January 2013 at 12:13

YET another hidden pay rise and yet the poor have hidden cuts in income(bed room tax,reduction in council tax benefits).

Posted by A yeoman on 30 January 2013 at 11:55

No one is saying this is anything new Steve. The point is, most of us were unaware of the matter. However, now we are aware. In these times of austerity, why should a tax free perk such as this be allowed when many of us (myself included) pay for travel too and from work in the city centre or pay to park the car if we choose to use it? In these days of enviromental awareness, why should the council be actively encouraging people to use cars and bring them into the city cente? On anyone day, this could account for over one thousand extra car journeys in the city centre. I apy for the bus to town, why should council workers get prefferential treatment? As for the comment 'Council owned land' in one of the posts, that equates to PUBLIC OWNED land, does this meean i can park for free too? Oh and while I'm on the subject, what about the council workers at the offices on Bousteads Grassing? I take it that car park is also full of free pass holders?

Posted by City centre worker on 30 January 2013 at 11:25

Come on who pays to park at the hospital after 5 oclock the bloke in his van has gone home

Posted by Davie S on 30 January 2013 at 07:55

If I worked for the council then I'd of course be happy to have a little extra perk like this, but the people who make the decisions should have thought this through a bit better, it seems. The council are all for reducing carbon footprints etc., so why not have a Park & Ride scheme specifically for Council Workers, using a car park(s) on the outskirts of the town.

Car Parks near the town centre are often in high demand, and shoppers shouldn't be discouraged for driving into town.

As for those who say "well, if council jobs are so easy then why don't you get one?"...well, the answer is obvious, there aren't any and the constant mentioning of having to apply for your own job etc testifies to that.

Posted by M. Sagan on 30 January 2013 at 00:07

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