Cumbria council proposing to build new headquarters in Carlisle
By Julian Whittle
Last updated at 12:05, Tuesday, 29 May 2012
Cumbria County Council is pushing ahead with plans for a purpose-built HQ in Carlisle’s Botchergate.
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What will happen to those business's around the civic centre when employees move to Botchergate area? & where will 1000employees park their cars when the william st car park is built on?Who on earth do councillors think will purchase the civic centre? & meantime where will the money come from? I suspect the council tax payers of Carlisle will be left with another huge loan with interest to pay off over the next 20years?The city does NOT have the money to pay for this daydream.Improve what the city has now, sort out the sickness culture, reduce the number of city/county councillors, freeze the allowances of councillors, & stop paying silly salaries to senior employees.Wake up, stop fantasising, & sort out the immediate problems.
Posted by Michael Owen on
16 June 2012 at 17:06
It's amazing how many people have attempted to offer a view with some authority when clearly they don't have any of the facts. Try not to express an opinion borne out of ignorance just because you can.
The County Council's decision is very progressive, something a second or even third tier city needs to drags itself out of the hole it's currently in.
Posted by Al on
10 June 2012 at 21:28
Perhaps they should tackle the terrible sickness and absence record before building a new HQ.....
Posted by Fred on
9 June 2012 at 21:59
Please use this new development as an opportunity to raze the dreadful carbuncle of a Civic Centre to the ground.
Posted by MFR on
9 June 2012 at 18:47
In view of the current programme of cuts in staff and services within the County I find myself asking if there will be any need for a new HQ in three year's time. What will be left? A group of over paid senior management and the consultants they need to help them do their job perhaps? This is an unnecessary waste of public (our) money. And just what has it to do with the City Council and it's Dear Leader,Joe Hendry? He seems to spring up in the most inappropriate places these days. The last I saw of him he was trying to rebrand our Great Border City and now he apears to think he's been elected to work with the County Council on a project that I suspect hasn't been discussed by his policical group or by the City Council. It certainly wasn't mentioned in the Dear Leader's pronouncements to the electorate prior to the elections.
Posted by Malcolm Craik on
7 June 2012 at 17:11
Jim: Of course I fully realise that total cooperation between the two is a utopian ideal and is unlikely to happen...entirely. But wasn't it you, a year or so ago, that was extolling the virtues (with regard to the digging up of James Street) of the County's local committee and how they liaised with the City on such matters?
Anyway, I (and another) mooted the idea of building above the current civic centre car park a separate building for the County; not sharing the civic centre. Whether a bridge, both figuratively and physically would be built between the two, is a matter for them to decide. Personally, I think the Unitary Authority idea has some legs.
Posted by BM on
6 June 2012 at 13:05
As the Fire Service HQ. in Cockermouth will soon be vacated surely now the County Council could use that for Offices.
Posted by Dave on
2 June 2012 at 11:23
BM, you do realise that all this talk of co-operation is a load of old hog wash. Both councils wont work together to share a single site. It just wont happen.
The county councils plans dont include any kind of accommodation for the city council (who heard about the plans in the news and star), it would rather relocate to Barrow than move to Rickergate and share the city councils properties.I would be careful Dr Hendry, Mr Young may be of the same political party but dont think that this over-rides the institutional desire to shaft the district council.The report i am sure will talk about the merits, and the possible hurdles that need to be overcome. Some well paid people will be called in to explore the issue further.I guarantee you the only way you will get the city council and county council sharing a main building in this way is in two possible scenarios: - Hell freezes over - Both councils are abolished and a new unitary council takes over.
Posted by Jim on
1 June 2012 at 17:04
Jim: To say that the Civic Centre (as a building) has had nothing to with schooling in Carlisle since 1974 is not quite true. Until 1983 (give or take a year) the Civic Centre housed the education department of the County Council until it re-located to Portland Square. But you are right about who has responsibility for education. Nothing to do with the City since when you say.
I'd support an earlier suggestion to clad the Civic Centre and extend it above the current car park there while adding one, two or three storeys of car-parking space underneath the offices. With a conversion of the old fire station to a bus interchange, it would be readily accessible to all people by public transport and by car and would physically link both the city and county council departments. They may even co-operate more if they are near bedfellows.
Posted by BM on
1 June 2012 at 15:36
To spend (or borrow actually ) 10 million so save over 2million a year is actually a good long term business plan as the old and badly maintained properties will continue to have more money thrown at them for repairs and ongoing maintence and insurance costs
Far more sense to have every one in one building and to release the various building and reduce the headaches of property maintence Im sure if the members of the public actually saw breakdown of some of the Costs they would think again and a one more efficient site is the way forward Defently a lot of anti Joe Henry comments at the moments Lets gave The guy a chance first By the way Craig an earlier comments Parish councils are actually volunteers who do the job for nothing ,for the love of the community they live in and are elected by the locals