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Tuesday, 23 December 2014

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Women, take some precautions

Tory MP Richard Graham has been bitterly lambasted for saying women are putting themselves at risk of rape by staggering around the night streets wearing short skirts and high heels.

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Nathan - I have no more to add as I think you put it perfectly! It's abhorent that we live in a culture where people saying that women 'ask for it' to a certain extent, and anyone who actually believes this nonsense should be ashamed of themselves.

If I wanted to go out and wear a bikini I should be able to - yes I would expect to have people turn their heads but it doesn't mean it's acceptable for men to even think about rape!

Posted by Charlotte on 7 February 2013 at 15:03

the studies continue to show that the majority of rapes is done by known persons of the victims in many countries and that is less discussed than the clothing issue.

Posted by catarina on 3 February 2013 at 15:46

Rape is always wrong - no excuses.

However,I agree these women don't help themselves by dressing tartily, & I agree with Johanna Lumbly.
I loath & despise the misguided Street Pastors/Street Angels who encourage antisocial behaviour like vomiting in the gutter by molly-coddling these morons, so they are nice & safe & can go back & do it again the next week. In many countries they would spend the night in the cells, until they had sobered up. The street pastors should be telling them bad behaviour is wrong not handing out sweeties & flip-flops.

Posted by Helen on 2 February 2013 at 01:53

Rape is Rape full stop! If a Male rapes a Female, then he should be physically Castrated! I will own up to being Male.

Posted by Stemax1960 on 1 February 2013 at 02:23

Actually Tom, it does happen. Welcome to the real world. All the right words, not necessarily in the right order.

Posted by J Oliver on 31 January 2013 at 10:59

Actually F Craddock, no means no, whether or whether not alcohol was involved, to suggest that women just turn happen around and say no is disgusting

Posted by tom on 30 January 2013 at 22:50

if they don't want to attract attention they should dress accordingly, most of them do want the attention though up to a certain level anyway!!

Posted by albert on 30 January 2013 at 12:45

I don't care what a woman is wearing, or how drunk she is - if she didn't give consent before sex, that's rape.

There's no excuses, no mitigating circumstances and no trying to blame the victim. It's rape, and the blame lies squarely on the side of the person doing the raping.

Why should women have to cover themselves up, or go easy on the alcohol, just because some under-endowed men with misogynistic notions of power and control can't control themselves like the majority of the population? I don't see people criticising men for what they wear, or for their behavior before a crime. If a man, slightly worse for wear after a few drinks, is punched in the face and robbed, do we handwave the crime away and allude that 'he was asking for it'?

I expected more from a woman commentator, Anne. Nothing a woman does or can do ever invites non-consentual abuse - it's purely and entirely the cause of the person doing the abuse.

The sooner more people recognise this and work on changing the attitude of the abusers and not the victim, that crimes like rape and sexual abuse will start to vanish.

Posted by Nathan on 30 January 2013 at 11:52

"Rape is a crime of power, control and violence by men who are inadequates and seedy predators. They are the offenders. Their victims are chosen to be exactly that."

Sorry, got to disagree with this statement - it's a bit of a generalisation really, just focusing on what one might refer to as "the criminal rapist".

Rapists, by and large, just happen to be intoxicated young men of previous good standing and character who happen to get in a situation where a girl suddenly decides to say "NO".

However forcefully, drunkenly, quietly or loudly the girl suddenly decides to say "NO", they say that one word and from then on the man is in the wrong.

Whatever has gone before, however well they get on (even husband and wife), one simple word from the female and the male is legally obliged to accept it.

Well . . . . I don't disagree with the law at all, but if alcohol (or drugs) were taken into account, it might be prudent to chuck out any cases where they were involved.

Posted by F Craddock on 30 January 2013 at 08:31

Nobody minds seeing lasses in various states of dress (and undress) - they are really quite attractive (well, some of them are), but they do need to keep a level head.

Obviously, alcohol lowers inhibitions and it does actually work the other way too; women fancy men and often set their sights on one. Whatever happens after that is widely documented and occasionally raised in court a few weeks later.

Posted by R Branson on 29 January 2013 at 14:40

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