Tuesday, 16 September 2014
Sympathy? Don’t make me laugh
Last updated at 12:45, Tuesday, 11 December 2012
Bad humour has a horrible habit of going terribly wrong. Pranks and practical jokes, by their very nature, rely on causing their victims pain.
PaulM Suicide has not been a criminal offence since 1961. You cannot assume that the nurse took her own life because of the silly phone call. As a former nurse I believe I would have been disciplined for giving out confidential information; are we sure this wasn't the case, and that lack of support from the staff at a private hospital who may have felt embarrassed and do not want to lose the patronage of the Royal family may have contributed to her decision? As for the DJ's surely it is their editor/manager who is responsible as it was a pre recorded call and the decision to broadcast was not theirs. The whole affair is tragic and I feel sorry for the family and the DJ's. As the sister of someone who killed himself, I know you can never really know why.
PaulM - we'll have to agree to disagree on that.
You don't strike me as a person worth debating with.
However, got to pick you up on that line where you say suicide is a crime. It's not.
The Suicide Act 1961 saw to that.
@ Bella on 15 December 2012 at 16:19
It is not cheap. And to try to counter argue with with "impossible to argue" statement is in itself a self destructive argument.
@ Keiron G on 17 December 2012 at 13:12
"another inaccurate post" another ?? perhaps you would condescend to elaborate?
I never said this was the cause, I said if the 'prank' never happened, she would be alive, maybe not today (due to the passage of time) but it was certainly the trigger. Perhaps you should read the posts for what they say, rather than making up your own interpretation, then casting aspersions ?
@ Nathan, actually, suicide is a crime. Though how you punish someone for it is beyond me.
@PaulM, another inaccurate post. You state that if this "prank" never happened, this nurse would be alive today. Is there anything else you want to guess at?? That is your opinion, not fact. None of us know the facts surrounding this story but to suggest that this nurse commited suicide because of a prank is ridiculous.
Many TV shows have been successful by pranking people (including kids shows). What makes these shows the success that they are? The people who watch them is the answer. Beadles About, Prank Patrol, Ant and Dec, Noel Edmonds and many more. I watch them. I think they are funny. Millions of other people watch them. They think they are funny. A prank gone wrong? Maybe. But there is no evidence of that as yet. So many people are quick to point the finger and I would bet that most of them watched prank shows on a Saturday evening as entertainment. It's terribly sad that someone has died. But how can you say what the cause is if you do not know the facts in their entirety. Let he/she who has not pranked cast the first stone. (Honestly?).
PaulM - got to tackle you on this.
When you say: "...the cold hard truth is, if it never happened, then Mrs Saldanha would be alive today." It's impossible to argue this. It's a fact. But using in this context is cheap.
This awful situation has reached where it has because of the Mrs Saldanha's mental health
Poor mental health is a complicated issue which rarely ends in suicide.
The trigger for her suicide may have been the practical joke, but ask yourself this: if you'd been the victim of this prank, would you have taken your own life?
"no one could have foreseen" is a phrase that has been banded about in some vain attempt to justify the prank.
Crap. There are any number of things you could say that about, but the cold hard truth is, if it never happened, then Mrs Saldanha would be alive today.
The sad case of Mrs Saldanha aside, not that it is insignificant in any way, but look at the 'prank' in itself.
A young pregnant woman goes into hospital, before the key date when prospective parents start to announce the new arrival (I understand the first three months are critical in any pregnancy, but I'm no doctor). As a result these people have to announce to the world a new baby.. earlier than anyone should.
Now some prankster on the other side of the world thinks there is some humor in taking up hospital staffs time, that in itself is very wrong. Attempting to break the trust between nursing staff and patient, that is very wrong. Then exposing medical details they acquired, beyond wrong.
Then, they fail to get positive agreement from those concerned, but broadcast it anyway, that too is wrong.
So even before the radio team become culpable in the death of a mother, they broke the law of the land, and several morals before that.
It is very probable that there were other factors that drove Mrs Saldanha to suicide, but being exposed and ridiculed in the worlds press is certainly more than the straw that would break any back, especially when it was unlooked for.
My hart goes out to Mrs Saldanha family. They didn't seek this, and it should never have happened. I hope the radio station looses it's licence, and none of the 'team' work again.