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Three-quarters of Cumbrians on sick judged fit to work

Nearly three quarters of north and west Cumbria’s sickness benefit claimants are being judged capable of work, it has been revealed.

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''To suggest that nearly 75% of north & west Cumbrian Incapacity Benefit claimants are judged fit for work is nothing other than a Consevative/Lib dem sponsored pernicious attack upon working class people & their families because that is exactly what it is-a class issue!''

Exactly.....WORKING class. WORKING. Not scrounging. People who work are not being penalised here. I am completely with the government on this matter and will vote for them again and again.
Yes, this benefit is great for the genuine people that need it, but there are people abusing it. Some of the claimants that have posted here seem to see comments as a personal attack on themselves. If they are claiming correctly, then it isn't aimed at them, is it? People are angry at those that claim wrongly. Some of the people here that are saying they can't work because they can only walk a few yards etc are WRONG for assuming they are intitled. Nobody is saying they have to work as a road sweeper or something. They can get a desk job, a call centre job, a work from home...there are jobs for many people if they can actually be bothered to work. Just because you have a disability, doesn't mean you can't work at all, it just means you are restricted in certain areas (obviously this doesn't apply to ALL disabilities, but some people take it as a free pass and that is wrong).
I am all for this ruling.

Posted by Carol-Ann on 28 April 2012 at 07:58

Quote "Everybody knows the old system was full of abuses."

As a rule any statement prefixed by "everybody knows" is generally uninformed garbage.

I don't know the old system was full of abuses. I am not privy to the analysis or any data relating to this. Just government statements and anecdotal rubbish.
But as an earlier correspondent asked - why are people obsessed with this perceived fraud rather than the more real corporate tax evasion? Because it feeds into their subconscious dislike of the infirm. People don't mind a quick whip round if you have a cancer ... there will be a relatively swift resolution, accompanied by the inevitable heroic struggle. Chronic ongoing illnesses bore people and push the limits of compassion.

Posted by Phil on 27 April 2012 at 21:37

Me and the wife have paid into NI contributions since we started work, and between us we have not taken more than 5 day sick in 60 combined years. We don't need the doctors (apart from mandatory check ups) so what have we got to show for it - about 9% of our earnings taken to give to the shirkers (and some genuine cases) of this world.

Sick - yes, to the back teeth.

Posted by John on 27 April 2012 at 21:31

To Jo 11:48. Whoosh! I think my post went flying over your head. Re-read it a bit more carefully and then read the original post that it was responding to.

Posted by Giddeon on 27 April 2012 at 20:37

I have never had sick benefits or motor cars given all my life, I am retired now living on a pension, no benefits like pension credits etc.We (My wife and I) have never had a holiday, like most people we have served in the Army done our public duty lawfully have worked since we was 14 years.
And I would never complain about folk receiving sick benefit or any kind of Benefit I believe that we are a caring country and I for one want to keep it that way, so stop Bleeting about people on benefits.(just think) but for the grace of god it could be you

Posted by Danleo on 27 April 2012 at 14:03

Giddeon - how on earth is making people who are not working work an attack on working people? Everybody knows the old system was full of abuses. If people are bunking off work they should have their benefits witheld, they are as much to blame for the state of the country as so so called super rich.

Posted by Jo on 27 April 2012 at 11:48

The total cost of Incapacity Benefit is £12bn a year. Total benefit fraud is estimated to be £1bn. But let us assume for the moment that every single person claiming IB/ESA were defrauding the state (an obviously preposterous assumption, but just for the sake of argument). That would mean £12bn fraud.
Now I'd just like to ask BM, billymac,Albert,Jay et al, but especially Belinda ("it makes my blood boil")a straight question: why are you so obsessed with this amount of fraud but choose to ignore an amount of fraud to the state TEN TIMES BIGGER - the £120bn tax avoided and evaded by the rich and powerful? I can't see any other reason than political cowardice. Please reply.

Posted by Brent Kennedy on 27 April 2012 at 11:45

i have worked since i left school 10 years ago last year i had a accident which required to have my shoulder re-constructed 4 month after the 1st operation i had to got for a medical to which they found me fit for work (god knows how )i then had another operation on the same shoulder as the 1st was unsuccessful this time round i had to take things very easy and my consultant signed my off for 8 month again the DWP said i was fit for work even tho i could not move the top half of my body and in a constant sling for 8 me i was treated unfairly by the dwp considering the amount of tax i have paid they are a complete joke

Posted by steve on 27 April 2012 at 10:42

How comes no-one has picked up that maybe doctors are encouraged to put people on the sick in this region as they do not count as unemployed for goverment statistics,it would be very cynical of goverments if that is the real reason-too keep unemployment figure down in cumbria and not show the true figure on how bad the region is,but it would'nt suprise me at all if that was the REAL reason.

Posted by james O on 27 April 2012 at 09:13

Charlie Dowthwaite: here are a few facts.
i) ATOS began carrying out medical assessments for the Government in 1998. In 1998 we did not have a Con/lib coalition.
ii) In 2005 Atos was re-awarded the contract to carry out assesments. In 2005 we did not have a Con/lib coalition.
iii) ATOS opened up a large number of medical centres around the UK to asses applicants. This was done from 2007 onwards. In 2007 we did not have a Con/lib coalition.
iv) In 2008 the Government replaced incapacity benefit with Employment Support Allowance. From that point onwards all new applicants would be assessed by ATOS. In 2008 we didnt have a con/lib coalition.
v) On May 25th 2010 a parliamentary report for the scheme said that there were flaws in the system.

A con/lib coalition at that point was two weeks old.

So clearly this is an attack on the working people by the Conservatives and libdems.

Posted by Giddeon on 26 April 2012 at 19:46

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