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Cumbrian construction company sacks workers for failing drugs tests

A construction company has sacked three workers who failed drugs tests.

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They should have been sacked back in november. durgs have no place in the workplace, and employers should not have to offer councelling or help to these people.

Posted by K on 10 March 2012 at 15:30

Well done to Thomas Armstrong, more employer's should follow your example.

Posted by suszie on 10 March 2012 at 15:09

Thomas, you are quite wrong with your comments, the company gave them fair dance to amend their ways and they did not take it knowing full well they could be tested again. They shoud have been handed over to the police as you know the drugs they were using are illegal. I know at work I would be sacked on the spot for drink or drug use so I'm not stupid enough to risk my job for a little high time.

Posted by Me again on 10 March 2012 at 14:25

In my place of work we get regular drug and alcohol tests. Before the test, we are asked if we have a problem, which basically means that if one person says they take drugs or drink a lot, then my company will help them get off the drink or drugs. If the worker says nothing and fails the test, they are sacked. Thomas Armstrong have been very generous by agreeing to help people AFTER they have failed the test. For the workers to carry on taking drugs/drink, they only have themselves to blame.

Posted by David on 10 March 2012 at 14:12

As much as I agree that the individuals involved must have been fairly stupid to take drugs for a second time, I am really not comfortable with this constant, creeping encroachment on our right to privacy and ability to make our own choices in life, regardless of their legality. I understand the safety argument, but unless they are also going to test for intoxication due to alcohol, their argument is totally void - let's face it, anyone who has had both the experience of being drunk and the experience of having taken the drugs tested for, will know that someone turning up to work drunk and operating machinery will be far more likely to cause a huge health and safety risk than someone turning up under the effects of marjuana or cocaine. It's not the fact that the test are being carried out that I object to, it's more the stupidity and hypocrisy of the drug classification system in general.

Posted by Katie on 10 March 2012 at 13:57

One slight issue with your post there Me, what if those removed had not touched Cannabis since November but had inadvertently exposed to Cannabis smoke from a third party. You have tp remember when the introduced drug tests inti prison it caused a switch from Cannabis use to heroin use as Heroin is out of your system much faster then Cannabis., I noticed that they didn't check for legal substances which can affect behaviour far more severely then Illicit substances taken in the days previously.... and of course, there could have been medicinal use of Cannabis. The Sativex spray from GW Pharmaceuticals would show up positive in tests for Cannabis but is a licensed medicine.
And I'll tell you now, Drink and cigarettes kill more people and cause more harm to the fabric of society then most illegal drugs.

Posted by The Doctor on 10 March 2012 at 13:47

I think this is quite disgraceful on the part of the company, to me it looks like they may have used these drug tests as a simple way to get rid of workers they no longer needed, due to a lack of work, shame on Thomas Armstrong. I'm bewildered as to why they only targeted Cocaine, Cannabis & Amphetamine users with these drug tests but totally neglected Alcohol users; by far the worst drug to be under the influence of or even to have been using the night before in this type of environment, it's simply unbelievable.

People need to understand these workers were most likely not under the direct influence of these drugs at the time of testing but still had trace amounts detectable in their urine. It's possible they may have used the drug at the weekend or even weeks before hand but still managed to test positive for it, Cannabis is thought to stay in your urine for at least 2 weeks. These drug tests are usually carried out on a Monday morning, just think for a second about how many people would test positive & be sacked if Alcohol was tested for in the same way on a regular basis, would you as an Alcohol user accept support to try to break your habit?

Maybe the workers didn't wish to break their "habit" because they enjoyed these drugs recreationally or even medicinally - Cannabis is a very beneficial drug for many disorders & conditions, just like many people enjoy Alcohol as their drug of choice others enjoy a different substance to be used in the same way.

"Management at the company yesterday said they are taking a zero-tolerance stance against drugs use." Please do tell me Keith Denham when Alcohol ceased being a drug? How many accidents have you seen caused directly by the actions of or involving people under the influence of Alcohol?

Posted by Thomas on 10 March 2012 at 13:41

Well done Thomas Armstrong. You gave your employees every chance and the support needed. Every employer should follow your example.

Posted by green on 10 March 2012 at 13:29

Treat their habit?! Just because you have done drugs it doesnt mean you have a habit

Posted by Lm on 10 March 2012 at 13:18

Working with machinery and they were given a further 13 weeks, they should have been sacked instantly.

Posted by Andrew on 10 March 2012 at 13:04

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