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12 hurt, seven taken to hospital after M6 pile-up in Cumbria

Up to 12 people have been injured - one seriously - in a six vehicle pile-up in dense fog on the M6 in Cumbria.

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I've heard it said that police north of border are tougher on speeding. Is making haste on south of border a contribution factor. Laxness of police curtailing speeding to be proven? Perhaps if insurance companies refused to compensate, or raise premiums, excess on policies, sky high fees for damage, or refusing new car replacement to proven bad drivers of motor-cars. Would it not just make it safe to drive...

This as said is not believed a pure accident but down to shocking driving standards. CNDR opened on tuesday and speed of cars in city was noticeable higher and despite Belle Vue's flashing 30mph sign did anyone observe them, or see any police presence. Trying to cross Stanwix's Scotland road was easier but one had to be quicker on ones pegs. All seems down to as police later said, Speed.

Posted by Roy on 15 February 2012 at 09:23

Drivers seriously need to slown down in these conditions they drive far too fast should be doing max 40 mph

Posted by Pamela Strachan on 13 February 2012 at 22:48

Dan C - yes indeed sideligts are "permitted" in built up, street lit areas - I stand corrected! This is however, an outdated, outmoded exception to the rule!

I stand by my point that if lights are required HEADLIGHTS should be used - even more so in the daytime, as sidelights offer the intensity of a candle!!

Sidelights should ONLY be used when temporarily parking the car on the roadside at night time, end of story! :o)

Posted by Hosen on 13 February 2012 at 22:29

This type of incident does not surprise me anymore as the driving standards in this country have dropped so much, rarely does a day go by that you don't see a piece of bad driving by all people, old, young, men and women all think they are better than everyone else and it will never happen to them! Well waken up people and smell the coffee! We are all to blame for these accidents as none of us has time for anyone else on the roads, we must get there faster than anyone else!! It is madness on todays roads just pathetic driving everywhere. Standards need to be raised for passing tests not just giving a licence to anyone that turns up which is how it seems these days.

Posted by Chris E on 13 February 2012 at 21:04

Re hosen
Check your highway code mate
Side lights are not illegal as you claim.
I am not justifying the actions of this appalling example of driving. Just pointing out that it is legal to drive with just sidelights on, in fact at night in a built up area lit by street lighting it is perfectly legal to drive with just side lights on. As is daytime driving in wet/grey conditions. Main beam is not required at all.
This is purely up to common sense, obviously in foggy conditions you should use fog lights as fitted.

Just saying :0)

Posted by Dan C on 13 February 2012 at 20:38

Middle aged drivers are the worst, they need to start retesting people!

Posted by Lm on 13 February 2012 at 20:04

An absolute disgrace, sums up the general standard of driving in the UK.

Driving with PARKING lights (AKA sidelights) is NOT LEGAL and police should be educating drivers on this matter. If lights are needed, day or night, HEADLIGHTS SHOULD BE USED.

Posted by Hosen on 13 February 2012 at 18:58

I dont use Motorway as a Learner o na 125 Bike but been driving long enough to know danger when i see it and indeed if more people used Indicators on vehicles insted of just turning and leaving it a guessing game as to what way they going thsi also could help save a few probs as i have 2 wheels and not so easy when its bad weather conditions .

It pays to make extra time and if so be late as a few mins longer is better than a long time dead

Posted by shell on 13 February 2012 at 16:34

Amazing - I was driving home on the M6 last night at 7pm with full headlights and fog lights rear and front doing a steady 50mph in the first lane given the conditions, to find an idot behind me within feet flashing like mad - I presumed he didn't like the fact that I had my rear fog lights on to keep him safe. The standard of driving in this country is nothing short of appalling.

Posted by M6 Driver on 13 February 2012 at 14:31

Brian: Andy commented on general poor driving standards and posts either side of yours, some of which were in effect witness statements to the incident, bear out his commentary and renders it perfectly valid. It matters not whether he was there or not; his commentary was general and it would appear that any supposition he made could, in the light of others' comments, be pretty close to accurate. So, no, not an off day but thanks for the compliment anyway.

However, I do feel that you owe both the residents of Taunton and Staffordshire an apology!

Posted by BM on 13 February 2012 at 14:16

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